What to Know
- Audio released by the local paper appears to show that several local officials, including the Sheriff, stuck around after a public meeting and among other things discussed a desire to kill journalists and the hanging of Black people.
- Oklahoma's Republican governor and the state representative for the area have called on Sheriff Kevin Clardy to resign.
- On Tuesday, Clardy's office appeared to push back, releasing a statement saying it is investigating the recording to possibly bring charges against the person who recorded it and alleging that it had been altered.
While the governor and others are calling for the resignation of an Oklahoma sheriff and other officials over an audio recording in which the group is reportedly heard discussing a desire to kill journalists and the hanging of Black people, his office instead shared a statement saying it is looking into the legality of the recording and suggested they may try to file criminal charges against the person who made it.
A post on the McCurtain County sheriff's office Facebook page — the agency's first public comment since the comments by Sheriff Kevin Clardy and others were reported by the McCurtain Gazette-News — does not address the recorded discussion or its contents, but calls the situation “complex” and one “we regret having to address.”
The threatening comments by the officials that were recorded by a voice-activated recorder following a public meeting, have sparked outrage and protests. Oklahoma's Republican Gov. Kevin Stitt and state Rep. Eddy Dempsey, a Republican who represents the area, have called for Clardy and others to resign. NAACP leaders in Oklahoma also called for the FBI and the Department of Justice to investigate.
The sheriff's statement called the past 72 hours “amongst the most difficult and disruptive in recent memory” and says the recording was altered and involves many victims.
“There is and has been an ongoing investigation into multiple, significant violation(s) of the Oklahoma Security of Communications Act ... which states that it is illegal to secretly record a conversation in which you are not involved and do not have the consent of at least one of the involved parties,” according to the statement.
Bruce Willingham, the longtime publisher of the McCurtain Gazette-News, said the recording was made March 6 when he left a voice-activated recorder inside the room after a county commissioner’s meeting because he suspected the group was continuing to conduct county business after the meeting had ended in violation of the state’s Open Meeting Act.
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“It is an accurate recording and does not violate the Oklahoma Security of Communications Act. The full audio is planned to be released on Thursday.”
Christin Jones, lawyer representing the McCurtain County Gazette-News
Willingham said he twice spoke with his attorneys to be sure he was doing nothing illegal. The newspaper's lawyers told NBC News that the full audio recording would be released Thursday.
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“It is an accurate recording and does not violate the Oklahoma Security of Communications Act,” Christin Jones of the Kilpatrick Townsend law firm, which represents the newspaper, said via email to NBC News. “The full audio is planned to be released on Thursday.”
The newspaper released portions of the recording in which Clardy, sheriff's Capt. Alicia Manning and District 2 County Commissioner Mark Jennings appear to discuss Bruce and Chris Willingham, a reporter for the newspaper who is Bruce Willingham's son. Jennings tells Clardy and Manning “I know where two deep holes are dug if you ever need them,” and the sheriff responded, “I’ve got an excavator.”
Jennings also reportedly says he’s known “two or three hit men” in Louisiana, adding “they’re very quiet guys.”
In the recording, Jennings also appears to complain about not being able to hang Black people, saying: “They got more rights than we got.”
Jail Administrator Larry Hendrix was also present during the conversation.
Joey Senat, a journalism professor at Oklahoma State University, said under Oklahoma law, the recording would be legal if it were obtained in a place where the officials being recorded did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
The Associated Press could not immediately verify the authenticity of the recording. None of the four have returned telephone calls or emails from The Associated Press.
A spokesperson for the FBI’s office in Oklahoma City declined to comment on the case. Phil Bacharach, a spokesperson for Oklahoma Attorney General Gentner Drummond, said the agency had received an audio recording and is investigating the incident, but declined to comment further.
Bruce Willingham said he believes the local officials were upset about “stories we’ve run that cast the sheriff’s office in an unfavorable light,” including the death of Bobby Barrick, a Broken Bow, Oklahoma, man who died at a hospital in March 2022 after McCurtain County deputies used a stun gun on him. The newspaper has filed a lawsuit against the sheriff’s office seeking body camera footage and other records connected to Barrick’s death.
Separately, Chris Willingham has filed a federal lawsuit against the sheriff's office, Clardy, Manning and the Board of County Commissioners alleging Manning slandered him after he wrote a series of articles detailing problems inside the sheriff's office. The lawsuit alleges Clardy, the board and the sheriff's office did not properly train or oversee Manning.
More than 100 people gathered outside the McCurtain County Courthouse in Idabel on Monday, with many of them calling for the sheriff and other county officials to resign.
On Tuesday, the Oklahoma Sheriff's Association, a voluntary membership organization and not a regulatory agency, held an emergency meeting of its board. It voted unanimously to suspend Clardy, Manning and Hendrix from the association.
The sheriff's office statement said there have been “a large number of threats of violence including death threats” against unspecified county employees, officials, their families and friends since the conversation was first reported.
The statement said the sheriff's office will issue news releases until its investigation concludes “and findings are forwarded to the appropriate authorities for felony charges to be filed on those involved.”
The incident in Oklahoma follows the recent killings of U.S. journalists in separate attacks in recent months in Florida and Nevada. In February, a television news reporter was shot and killed and a cameraman wounded while filming a story about a homicide that happened earlier that day. And in Nevada, an elected official was arrested and accused of fatally stabbing a veteran newspaper reporter who had been investigating him.
